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spyware/adware ?? cool www search (CWS)

Messaggioda manero478 » lun gen 09, 2006 2:05 pm

[cry+]
purtroppo nonostante che search&destroy e ad-aware dicono che li tolgono, ricompaiono sempre.
che devo fare??
dopo aver letto un vostro articolo mi suggerite di postare l' Hijackthis
eccolo qui di seguito subito dopo aver eseguito search&destroy :

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 14.00.47, on 09/01/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\TPSrv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\FIREWALL\PNMSRV.EXE
C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PWISVC.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\APVXDWIN.EXE
C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PUSAS.EXE
C:\Programmi\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\inetinfo.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PavFnSvr.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Panda Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe
C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\pavsrv51.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\AVENGINE.EXE
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PsImSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\tcpsvcs.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\WebProxy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\notepad.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsvp.exe
C:\Programmi\WinMX\WinMX.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\Files per Ripristinare il PC\CONDIVISI\WINMX\[AMICI DI PETRO]MXMoni130ITA\MXMoni130ITA\MXMoniE.exe
C:\Programmi\DAP\DAP.EXE
C:\Programmi\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
C:\Programmi\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\appyj.exe
C:\WINDOWS\ipgn.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\Caccia ai VIRUS\HijackThis.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\avciman.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\psimreal.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = c:\windows\blank.htm
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = c:\windows\blank.htm
R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing

O2 - BHO: Panicware BHO Class - {00000000-6C30-11D8-9363-000AE6309658} - C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PWIBHO.DLL
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {226F805F-8E96-0121-4596-E21EA0B40429} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {44B06760-8B11-338A-B7AC-7C1CD277B316} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Class - {9E15F239-C4F7-8EB8-6033-C3BB100C2276} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\msff.dll (file missing)
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\programmi\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O2 - BHO: Class - {C6A53716-4EDC-CC43-99E1-9DBC615B7F1D} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntvd32.dll (file missing)
O2 - BHO: Class - {D40655FE-E21F-1542-6249-715743732B2D} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntgz.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Programmi\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn\yt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Systran40premi.IEPlugIn - {CFB25594-4D5F-11D6-AB7B-00B0D094B576} - C:\Programmi\Systran\4_0\Premium\IEPlugIn.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\programmi\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware Toolbar - {E4CAA75E-9B5F-45EB-8E4E-8B743B44F171} - C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PWITB.DLL
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATICCC] "C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe" runtime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Collegamento alla pagina delle proprietà di High Definition Audio] HDAShCut.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Babylon Client] C:\Programmi\Babylon\Babylon.exe -AutoStart
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SweetIM] C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [APVXDWIN] "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Programmi\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\RunOnce: [appyj.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\appyj.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SweetIM] C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Pop-Up_Stopper_Anti-Spyware] C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PUSAS.EXE
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Download with &DAP - C:\Programmi\DAP\dapextie.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmwordtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Download &all with DAP - C:\Programmi\DAP\dapextie2.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&sporta in Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
O16 - DPF: {00B71CFB-6864-4346-A978-C0A14556272C} (Checkers Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/ms ... b31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {14B87622-7E19-4EA8-93B3-97215F77A6BC} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Me ... b31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {2917297F-F02B-4B9D-81DF-494B6333150B} (Minesweeper Flags Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Mi ... b31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {30528230-99f7-4bb4-88d8-fa1d4f56a2ab} (YInstStarter Class) - C:\Programmi\Yahoo!\Common\yinsthelper.dll
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftup ... 0767868265
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Me ... b31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {B38870E4-7ECB-40DA-8C6A-595F0A5519FF} (MsnMessengerSetupDownloadControl Class) - http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMe ... loader.cab
O16 - DPF: {B8BE5E93-A60C-4D26-A2DC-220313175592} (ZoneIntro Class) - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/ZI ... b32846.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{D0D3091D-23BD-46AA-AE55-E7A51D944CE3}: NameServer = 193.70.152.15 193.70.152.25
O20 - Winlogon Notify: avldr - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\avldr.dll
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Programmi\File comuni\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: Panda Function Service (PAVFNSVR) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PavFnSvr.exe
O23 - Service: Panda Process Protection Service (PavPrSrv) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Panda Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe
O23 - Service: Panda anti-virus service (PAVSRV) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\pavsrv51.exe
O23 - Service: Panda Network Manager (PNMSRV) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\FIREWALL\PNMSRV.EXE
O23 - Service: Panda IManager Service (PSIMSVC) - Panda Software Internacional - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PsImSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware Service (PWISVC) - Panicware, Inc. - C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PWISVC.EXE
O23 - Service: Panda TPSrv (TPSrv) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\TPSrv.exe

*************************************************************
e questo e' di StartupTracker

-- Registry --
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

appyj.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\appyj.exe

-- Registry --
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

ATICCC "C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe" runtime
Collegamento alla pagina delleHDAShCut.exe
Babylon Client C:\Programmi\Babylon\Babylon.exe -AutoStart
SweetIM C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
gcasServ "C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
APVXDWIN "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s
QuickTime Task "C:\Programmi\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
ipgn.exe C:\WINDOWS\ipgn.exe

-- Registry --
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

No Items Found

-- Registry --
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

SweetIM C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
Pop-Up_Stopper_Anti-Spyware C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PUSAS.EXE

-- Registry --
HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

No Items Found

-- Start Menu - Current User --
No Items Found

-- Start Menu - All Users --
No Items Found

-- Disabled Items --
No Items Found

-- Registry - Shell Value - HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon --
Explorer.exe

-- Running Processes --
System Idle Process
System
smss.exe \SystemRoot\System32\smss.exe
csrss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows SharedSection=1024,3072,512 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2 ProfileControl=Off MaxRequestThreads=16
winlogon.exe winlogon.exe
services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k DcomLaunch
TPSrv.exe "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\TPSrv.exe"
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k rpcss
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
PNmSrv.exe "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\FIREWALL\PNMSRV.EXE"
PWISVC.EXE "C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PWISVC.EXE"
spoolsv.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
ati2evxx.exe Ati2evxx.exe -Client
explorer.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
CLI.exe "C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe" runtime
SweetIM.exe "C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe"
gcasServ.exe "C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
ApVxdWin.exe "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s
PUSAS.EXE "C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PUSAS.EXE"
msnmsgr.exe "C:\Programmi\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe" /background
inetinfo.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\inetinfo.exe
PavFnSvr.exe "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PavFnSvr.exe"
PavPrSrv.exe "C:\Programmi\File comuni\Panda Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe"
gcasDtServ.exe "C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe" -Embedding
PAVSRV51.EXE "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\pavsrv51.exe"
AVENGINE.EXE "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\\AVENGINE.EXE"
PsImSvc.exe "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PsImSvc.exe"
tcpsvcs.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\tcpsvcs.exe
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k imgsvc
WebProxy.exe "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\WebProxy.exe" oso_XGCGLR
explorer.exe "C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe"
alg.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
CLI.exe "C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe" -hide Dashboard
notepad.exe "notepad.exe" C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\Logo_Chat.txt
rsvp.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsvp.exe
WinMX.exe "C:\Programmi\WinMX\WinMX.exe"
MXMoniE.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\Files per Ripristinare il PC\CONDIVISI\WINMX\[AMICI DI PETRO]MXMoni130ITA\MXMoni130ITA\MXMoniE.exe"
msimn.exe "C:\Programmi\Outlook Express\msimn.exe"
IEXPLORE.EXE "C:\Programmi\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -Embedding
appyj.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\appyj.exe" /r
ipgn.exe C:\WINDOWS\ipgn.exe
Avciman.exe "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\avciman.exe"
psimreal.exe "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\psimreal.exe"
wmiprvse.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\wmiprvse.exe
StartupTracker3.exe "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\StartupTracker3.exe"

-- Running Services --




Spero possiate aiutarmi
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Messaggioda antonio » lun gen 09, 2006 3:22 pm

hai disattivato il ripristino di configurazione del sistema?
comunque aspetta l'intervento di crazy.cat
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Messaggioda crazy.cat » lun gen 09, 2006 6:34 pm

Conosci questo programma?
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SweetIM] C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SweetIM] C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
Se non sai cosa sia elimina anche queste righe.

Parti in modalità provvisoria, cancelli tutti i file temporanei di internet,
fai una scansione con questo programma
http://www.trendmicro.com/ftp/products/ ... redder.exe
Queste sono da cancellare, rifai la scansione con hijackthis, metti il flag su queste righe e poi premi fix.
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {226F805F-8E96-0121-4596-E21EA0B40429} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {44B06760-8B11-338A-B7AC-7C1CD277B316} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Class - {9E15F239-C4F7-8EB8-6033-C3BB100C2276} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\msff.dll (file missing)
O2 - BHO: Class - {C6A53716-4EDC-CC43-99E1-9DBC615B7F1D} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntvd32.dll (file missing)
O2 - BHO: Class - {D40655FE-E21F-1542-6249-715743732B2D} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntgz.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\RunOnce: [appyj.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\appyj.exe

Controlla dopo tutte le scansione che i due file che ho segnato in rosso siano spariti dal tuo pc, se ci sono ancora usa questo programma per eliminarli.
http://www.MegaLab.it/2427

Pulito tutto, riavvia il pc e vedi come va.
Quando i molti governano, pensano solo a contentar sé stessi, si ha allora la tirannia più balorda e più odiosa: la tirannia mascherata da libertà.
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forse risolto grazie

Messaggioda manero478 » mar gen 10, 2006 2:11 pm

GRAZIE DELL'AIUTO....
dopo aver fatto quanto mi hai detto l'hijackthis mi ha riportato, tra le altre questa riga :

O23 - Service: Workstation NetLogon Service ( 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\crkx32.exe"

/s (file missing)

ho messo la spunta per eliminarlo ma rimaneva sempre lì , allora :

ho aperto il registro e ho cercato dove fosse e ho provato ad eliminare manualmente..da una parte una kiave ci

sono riuscito,(purtroppo non mi sono salvato dove) pero' in queste sotto elencate non le fa' eliminare:
1-----
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I]
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I\0000]
"Service"=" 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I"
"Legacy"=dword:00000001
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
"DeviceDesc"="Network Security Service (NSS)"
2----
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I]
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I\0000]
"Service"=" 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I"
"Legacy"=dword:00000001
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
"DeviceDesc"="Network Security Service (NSS)"
3-----
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I]
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I\0000]
"Service"=" 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I"
"Legacy"=dword:00000001
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
"DeviceDesc"="Network Security Service (NSS)"
4------
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I]
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I\0000]
"Service"=" 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I"
"Legacy"=dword:00000001
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
"DeviceDesc"="Network Security Service (NSS)"
------------------------
molto probabile perche e' legato a questa kiave : {8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
che ha queste righe :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}]
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
@="Driver non Plug and Play"
"NoDisplayClass"="1"
"SilentInstall"="1"
"NoInstallClass"="1"
"EnumPropPages32"="SysSetup.Dll,LegacyDriverPropPageProvider"
"Icon"="-19"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}\0000]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}\0001]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}\0002]

.....

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}\0033]
------------------------------------*****************--------------------------
comunque dopo aver eliminato la kiave che non ricordo dove fosse....l'hijackthis e' questo:

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 13.49.57, on 10/01/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\TPSrv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\FIREWALL\PNMSRV.EXE
C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PWISVC.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\APVXDWIN.EXE
C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PUSAS.EXE
C:\Programmi\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\inetinfo.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PavFnSvr.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Panda Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\pavsrv51.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\AVENGINE.EXE
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PsImSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\tcpsvcs.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdfmgr.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\WebProxy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe
C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\NOTEPAD.EXE
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\avciman.exe
C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\psimreal.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\Caccia ai VIRUS\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = c:\windows\blank.htm
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = c:\windows\blank.htm
R3 - Default URLSearchHook is missing

O2 - BHO: Panicware BHO Class - {00000000-6C30-11D8-9363-000AE6309658} - C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper

Anti-Spyware\PWIBHO.DLL
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Programmi\Adobe\Acrobat

7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\programmi\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} -

C:\Programmi\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn\yt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Systran40premi.IEPlugIn - {CFB25594-4D5F-11D6-AB7B-00B0D094B576} -

C:\Programmi\Systran\4_0\Premium\IEPlugIn.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\programmi\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware Toolbar - {E4CAA75E-9B5F-45EB-8E4E-8B743B44F171} -

C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PWITB.DLL
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATICCC] "C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\cli.exe" runtime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Collegamento alla pagina delle proprietà di High Definition Audio] HDAShCut.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Babylon Client] C:\Programmi\Babylon\Babylon.exe -AutoStart
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SweetIM] C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Programmi\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [APVXDWIN] "C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus +

Antispyware\APVXDWIN.EXE" /s
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Programmi\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SweetIM] C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Pop-Up_Stopper_Anti-Spyware] C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware\PUSAS.EXE
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [msnmsgr] ~"C:\Programmi\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe" /background
O6 - HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Control Panel present
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Download with &DAP - C:\Programmi\DAP\dapextie.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word -

res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmwordtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Download &all with DAP - C:\Programmi\DAP\dapextie2.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&sporta in Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English -

res://c:\programmi\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
O16 - DPF: {00B71CFB-6864-4346-A978-C0A14556272C} (Checkers Class) -

http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/ms ... b31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {14B87622-7E19-4EA8-93B3-97215F77A6BC} (MessengerStatsClient Class) -

http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Me ... b31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) -

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {2917297F-F02B-4B9D-81DF-494B6333150B} (Minesweeper Flags Class) -

http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Mi ... b31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {2BC66F54-93A8-11D3-BEB6-00105AA9B6AE} (Symantec AntiVirus scanner) -

http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/Shar ... vSniff.cab
O16 - DPF: {30528230-99f7-4bb4-88d8-fa1d4f56a2ab} (YInstStarter Class) -

C:\Programmi\Yahoo!\Common\yinsthelper.dll
O16 - DPF: {5D86DDB5-BDF9-441B-9E9E-D4730F4EE499} (BDSCANONLINE Control) -

http://download.bitdefender.com/resourc ... oscan8.cab
O16 - DPF: {644E432F-49D3-41A1-8DD5-E099162EEEC5} (Symantec RuFSI Utility Class) -

http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/Shar ... /cabsa.cab
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) -

http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftup ... 0767868265
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} (MessengerStatsClient Class) -

http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/Me ... b31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {B38870E4-7ECB-40DA-8C6A-595F0A5519FF} (MsnMessengerSetupDownloadControl Class) -

http://messenger.msn.com/download/MsnMe ... loader.cab
O16 - DPF: {B8BE5E93-A60C-4D26-A2DC-220313175592} (ZoneIntro Class) -

http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/ZI ... b32846.cab
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ATI Smart - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2sgag.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Programmi\File

comuni\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: Panda Function Service (PAVFNSVR) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium

2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PavFnSvr.exe
O23 - Service: Panda Process Protection Service (PavPrSrv) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Panda

Software\PavShld\pavprsrv.exe
O23 - Service: Panda anti-virus service (PAVSRV) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium

2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\pavsrv51.exe
O23 - Service: Panda Network Manager (PNMSRV) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006

Antivirus + Antispyware\FIREWALL\PNMSRV.EXE
O23 - Service: Panda IManager Service (PSIMSVC) - Panda Software Internacional - C:\Programmi\Panda

Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus + Antispyware\PsImSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Pop-Up Stopper Anti-Spyware Service (PWISVC) - Panicware, Inc. - C:\Programmi\Panicware\Pop-Up

Stopper Anti-Spyware\PWISVC.EXE
O23 - Service: Panda TPSrv (TPSrv) - Panda Software - C:\Programmi\Panda Software\Panda Titanium 2006 Antivirus +

Antispyware\TPSrv.exe

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spero di essere stato chiaro.....
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sembra tutto pulito e mentre sto preparando questo file da postare non e' riapparso, anche se non ho ancora

aperto il collegamento, lo faccio ora... perche' i problemi maggiori li ho quando cerco di collegrami in internet..

sono in internet ho girato un po' ed ancora non si e' affacciato...
speriamo bene.

Rinnovandoti i ringraziamenti ti saluto..
continuate così siete forti... [applauso]

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Messaggioda crazy.cat » mar gen 10, 2006 5:48 pm

Che programma era poi questo

O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SweetIM] C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe

che ho visto lo hai lasciato.
Quando i molti governano, pensano solo a contentar sé stessi, si ha allora la tirannia più balorda e più odiosa: la tirannia mascherata da libertà.
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Messaggioda manero478 » mar gen 10, 2006 8:16 pm

O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SweetIM] C:\Programmi\Macrogaming\SweetIM\SweetIM.exe

sono delle animoticon per msn...aggiunge una barra nuova con nuovi file..
il sito e questo : http://www.sweetim.com/download.asp

ma per questo sotto che faccio ??? cosa era??? il pc sebra funzionare regolarmente.

grazie pwer l'aiuto

1-----
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I]
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I\0000]
"Service"=" 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I"
"Legacy"=dword:00000001
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
"DeviceDesc"="Network Security Service (NSS)"
2----
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I]
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I\0000]
"Service"=" 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I"
"Legacy"=dword:00000001
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
"DeviceDesc"="Network Security Service (NSS)"
3-----
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I]
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I\0000]
"Service"=" 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I"
"Legacy"=dword:00000001
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
"DeviceDesc"="Network Security Service (NSS)"
4------
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I]
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Enum\Root\LEGACY__11F*00DF*00E4*0006#*00B7*00BA*00C4*00D6`I\0000]
"Service"=" 11Fßä#·ºÄÖ`I"
"Legacy"=dword:00000001
"ConfigFlags"=dword:00000000
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
"ClassGUID"="{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
"DeviceDesc"="Network Security Service (NSS)"
------------------------
molto probabile perche e' legato a questa kiave : {8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}"
che ha queste righe :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}]
"Class"="LegacyDriver"
@="Driver non Plug and Play"
"NoDisplayClass"="1"
"SilentInstall"="1"
"NoInstallClass"="1"
"EnumPropPages32"="SysSetup.Dll,LegacyDriverPropPageProvider"
"Icon"="-19"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}\0000]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}\0001]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}\0002]

.....

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}\0033]
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Messaggioda MDM » mer gen 11, 2006 1:48 am

ciao, forse hai già risolto il problema, ma mi permetto di consigliarti un programmino che ho scoperto stasera (per un problema di dialer o robaccia simile) funzionare ottimamente...o almeno spero, per ora sembra abbia funzionato!
Si tratta di CWShredder. http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshredder_download.html.
E' fatto proprio per schifezzuole come CoolWebSearch e altri simili hijackers o come si chiamano. Ed è facile facile, prova un po' :)
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grazie mdm ---

Messaggioda manero478 » mer gen 11, 2006 12:19 pm

Ti ringrazio gia' usato...

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per crazy-cat

Messaggioda manero478 » mer gen 11, 2006 12:23 pm

scusami se insisto...forse non hai ancora avuto il tempo di leggere il mio ultimo messaggio...sul registro...
Mi potresti dire che fare?

grazie e scusa chissa' quanti ti stressano...quindi capisco..
era solo per essere sicuro che l'avessi letto..
di nuovo grazie..resto in attesa

ciao
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Messaggioda crazy.cat » mer gen 11, 2006 7:37 pm

Controlla in Pannello di controllo - Strumenti amministrazione - servizi - se trovi un servizio chiamato Network Security Service e disabilitalo e riavvia il pc.
Dopo prova a cancellare le chiavi.
Porta pazienza, prima o poi le risposte arrivano.
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segue....

Messaggioda manero478 » gio gen 12, 2006 10:31 am

con molta probabilita' questo problema adesso dovrebbe essere su un'altro forum, forse WINDOWS, ma visto che e stata una conseguenza del problema spyware continuo qui:

allora ho cercato quanto da te chiesto ma l'unico servizio che riguarda il Network e' questo : NLA (Network Location Awareness)

Non so' che devo fare anche perche non so' se :
Network Security Service
e' importante e se puo dare qualche problema il fatto che non e' completo.

Grato dell'aiuto che potrai darmi ti saluto e ringrazio
ciao
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Messaggioda crazy.cat » gio gen 12, 2006 5:17 pm

Sull'exe chcrkx32.exe che si vede come missing ci sono poche notizie in giro.
sembra una variante del Cws ed è stato eliminato.
Pensavo fosse rimasto qualche pezzo di servizio attivo e non riuscivi a togliere le chiavi per quello.
Se il pc funziona bene, lasciale li fino al prossimo format.
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