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Messaggioda blackflamelux » mar feb 05, 2008 5:33 pm

salve! sono nuova da questa parti!
da qualche tempo ho problemi col pc... Avast aveva individuato un dialer ma non ho risolto nulla: pagine di i.e. che si chiudono da sole, file strani in TEMP...Cosi ho fatto scansioni quà e là. ecco i log, magari potreste aiutarmi ad eliminare un po' di roba!

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KASPERSKY ONLINE SCANNER REPORT
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:43:50 PM
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Kaspersky Online Scanner version: 5.0.98.0
Kaspersky Anti-Virus database last update: 5/02/2008
Kaspersky Anti-Virus database records: 549466
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Scan Settings:
Scan using the following antivirus database: extended
Scan Archives: true
Scan Mail Bases: true

Scan Target - Critical Areas:
C:\windows
C:\DOCUME~1\UTENTE\IMPOST~1\Temp\

Scan Statistics:
Total number of scanned objects: 13639
Number of viruses found: 2
Number of infected objects: 6
Number of suspicious objects: 0
Duration of the scan process: 00:13:19

Infected Object Name / Virus Name / Last Action
C:\windows\Debug\PASSWD.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\SchedLgU.Txt Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\SoftwareDistribution\ReportingEvents.log Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\Sti_Trace.log Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\CatRoot2\edb.log Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\Antivirus.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\default Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\default.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\Internet.evt Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\sam Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\SAM.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\security Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\SECURITY.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\software Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\software.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\system Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\config\system.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\h323log.txt Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\NeroCheck.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\windows\system32\PSDrvCheck.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\E_S10IC2.EXE Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\windows\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\INDEX.BTR Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\INDEX.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING.VER Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING1.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING2.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.DATA Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\Temp\Perflib_Perfdata_5f8.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\Temp\_avast4_\Webshlock.txt Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\UpdReg.EXE Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\windows\wiadebug.log Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\wiaservc.log Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\WindowsUpdate.log Object is locked skipped
C:\windows\{00000000-00000000-00000013-00001102-00000002-100A1102}.CDF Object is locked skipped
C:\DOCUME~1\UTENTE\IMPOST~1\Temp\1189970556.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\DOCUME~1\UTENTE\IMPOST~1\Temp\2170761234.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\DOCUME~1\UTENTE\IMPOST~1\Temp\~DF87AC.tmp Object is locked skipped
C:\DOCUME~1\UTENTE\IMPOST~1\Temp\~DFCC5E.tmp Object is locked skipped
C:\DOCUME~1\UTENTE\IMPOST~1\Temp\~WRF0000.tmp Object is locked skipped

Scan process completed.
POI:

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KASPERSKY ONLINE SCANNER REPORT
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:47:53 PM
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Kaspersky Online Scanner version: 5.0.98.0
Kaspersky Anti-Virus database last update: 5/02/2008
Kaspersky Anti-Virus database records: 549466
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Scan Settings:
Scan using the following antivirus database: extended
Scan Archives: true
Scan Mail Bases: true

Scan Target - Memory:

Scan Statistics:
Total number of scanned objects: 2635
Number of viruses found: 1
Number of infected objects: 1
Number of suspicious objects: 0
Duration of the scan process: 00:02:03

Infected Object Name / Virus Name / Last Action
[4040] NeroCheck.exe => C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped

Scan process completed.
ANCORA;
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KASPERSKY ONLINE SCANNER REPORT
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:23:46 PM
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Kaspersky Online Scanner version: 5.0.98.0
Kaspersky Anti-Virus database last update: 5/02/2008
Kaspersky Anti-Virus database records: 549466
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Scan Settings:
Scan using the following antivirus database: extended
Scan Archives: true
Scan Mail Bases: true

Scan Target - Folders:
C:\System Volume Information\
F:\System Volume Information\

Scan Statistics:
Total number of scanned objects: 1315
Number of viruses found: 1
Number of infected objects: 1
Number of suspicious objects: 0
Duration of the scan process: 00:02:56

Infected Object Name / Virus Name / Last Action
C:\System Volume Information\_restore{EC67284D-C325-426E-AE7A-E9D399C6851C}\RP11\change.log Object is locked skipped
F:\System Volume Information\_restore{EC67284D-C325-426E-AE7A-E9D399C6851C}\RP11\change.log Object is locked skipped
F:\System Volume Information\_restore{EC67284D-C325-426E-AE7A-E9D399C6851C}\RP3\A0000288.rbf Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped

Scan process completed.
INFINE
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Cookies\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Impostazioni locali\Cronologia\History.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Impostazioni locali\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\NTUSER.DAT Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\ntuser.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\NTUSER.DAT Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Cookies\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Cronologia\History.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Cronologia\History.IE5\MSHist012008020520080206\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\ApplicationHistory\ENCWCSVR.EXE.26bfe7ac.ini.inuse Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Feeds Cache\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Temp\1189970556.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Temp\2170761234.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\NTUSER.DAT Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\ntuser.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\found.000\dir0001.chk\Disinstalla Finson Superenalotto 3.lnk Object is locked skipped
C:\found.000\dir0001.chk\Finson Live Update.lnk Object is locked skipped
C:\found.000\dir0001.chk\Finson Superenalotto 3.lnk Object is locked skipped
C:\found.000\dir0001.chk\Invio Suggerimento.lnk Object is locked skipped
C:\found.000\dir0001.chk\Registra Finson Superenalotto 3.lnk Object is locked skipped
C:\found.000\dir0001.chk\Richiesta Assistenza.lnk Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\aswResp.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\Avast4.db Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log\AshWebSv.ws Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log\aswMaiSv.log Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log\nshield.log Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\report\Protezione residente.txt Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\Programmi\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\Programmi\InstallShield Installation Information\{77F09242-A107-4CB6-A295-D8656C2C3795}\Setup.ilg Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\InstallShield Installation Information\{A8BB9906-E618-406A-B161-7383AFF46C39}\Setup.ilg Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\InstallShield Installation Information\{D48C9BFC-FBCF-4F29-B97D-822ED6D497FE}\Setup.ilg Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\jusched.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\Programmi\Maxtor\OneTouch Status\maxmenumgr.exe Object is locked skipped
C:\Programmi\Microsoft Encarta\Microsoft Encarta Enciclopedia DVD - 2006\EDICT.EXE Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1060284298-1417001333-725345543-1003\Dc7.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1060284298-1417001333-725345543-1003\Dc8.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\System Volume Information\_restore{EC67284D-C325-426E-AE7A-E9D399C6851C}\RP11\change.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\Debug\PASSWD.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\SchedLgU.Txt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\ReportingEvents.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\Sti_Trace.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot2\edb.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\Antivirus.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\Internet.evt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\sam Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SAM.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\security Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SECURITY.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\h323log.txt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSDrvCheck.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\E_S10IC2.EXE Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\INDEX.BTR Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\INDEX.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING.VER Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING1.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING2.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.DATA Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Perflib_Perfdata_5f8.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\Temp\_avast4_\Webshlock.txt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\UpdReg.EXE Infected: Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh skipped
C:\WINDOWS\wiadebug.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\wiaservc.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\WindowsUpdate.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\{00000000-00000000-00000013-00001102-00000002-100A1102}.CDF Object is locked skipped


Scan process completed.


Attendo vostre risposte.... sono in particolare due trojan che mi preoccupano, ma non ho idea di come eliminarli!
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Messaggioda ste_95 » mar feb 05, 2008 5:39 pm

Disabilita il ripristino configurazione di sistema.

Scarica Avenger
Estrailo in una cartella a tua scelta
Esegui il file avenger.exe con la figura di una spada
Metti il pallino su input script manually
Quindi scegli la lente e cliccaci
Ora incolla queste righe nella box bianca che si è aperta:

Codice: Seleziona tutto
Files to delete:
C:\windows\system32\NeroCheck.exe
C:\windows\system32\PSDrvCheck.exe
C:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\E_S10IC2.EXE
C:\windows\UpdReg.EXE
C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe
C:\Programmi\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe
C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Programmi\Microsoft Encarta\Microsoft Encarta Enciclopedia DVD - 2006\EDICT.EXE
C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1060284298-1417001333-725345543-1003\Dc7.exe
C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1060284298-1417001333-725345543-1003\Dc8.exe

Folders to delete:
C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Temp


Adesso devi cliccare su Done in basso nella box
Seleziona il semaforino in alto a destra
Rispondi di Si alle due richieste di Avenger
Adesso il tuo computer dovrebbe riavviarsi, nel caso non succedesse, riavvialo tu manualmente
Al riavvio del computer, copia e incolla qui il contenuto del blocco note che apparirà.
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Messaggioda blackflamelux » mar feb 05, 2008 8:25 pm

Ecco fatto

Logfile of The Avenger version 1, by Swandog46
Running from registry key:
\Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\uqjmujkk

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Script file located at: \??\C:\Documents and Settings\clmofyou.txt
Script file opened successfully.

Script file read successfully

Backups directory opened successfully at C:\Avenger

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Beginning to process script file:

File C:\windows\system32\NeroCheck.exe deleted successfully.
File C:\windows\system32\PSDrvCheck.exe deleted successfully.
File C:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\E_S10IC2.EXE deleted

successfully.
File C:\windows\UpdReg.EXE deleted successfully.
File C:\Programmi\ATI Technologies\ATI Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe deleted

successfully.
File C:\Programmi\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PDVDServ.exe deleted successfully.
File C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin\jusched.exe deleted successfully.
File C:\Programmi\Microsoft Encarta\Microsoft Encarta Enciclopedia DVD -

2006\EDICT.EXE deleted successfully.
File C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1060284298-1417001333-725345543-1003\Dc7.exe

deleted successfully.
File C:\RECYCLER\S-1-5-21-1060284298-1417001333-725345543-1003\Dc8.exe

deleted successfully.
Folder C:\Documents and Settings\UTENTE\Impostazioni locali\Temp deleted

successfully.

Completed script processing.

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Finished! Terminate.

allora, come sta??????
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Messaggioda ste_95 » mar feb 05, 2008 8:52 pm

Sembra sia andato tutto a posto. Come ti trovi?
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Messaggioda blackflamelux » mer feb 06, 2008 12:23 am

sisi sembra tutto regolare adesso...
Benone! Grazie mille per l'aiuto, non sapevo come fare!
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Messaggioda blackflamelux » mer feb 06, 2008 9:11 pm

Ecco qui il log di un altro pc infettato..help!

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KASPERSKY ONLINE SCANNER REPORT
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:24:34 PM
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Kaspersky Online Scanner version: 5.0.98.0
Kaspersky Anti-Virus database last update: 6/02/2008
Kaspersky Anti-Virus database records: 552453
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Scan Settings:
Scan using the following antivirus database: extended
Scan Archives: true
Scan Mail Bases: true

Scan Target - My Computer:
A:\
C:\
D:\

Scan Statistics:
Total number of scanned objects: 43856
Number of viruses found: 1
Number of infected objects: 3
Number of suspicious objects: 0
Duration of the scan process: 00:40:00

Infected Object Name / Virus Name / Last Action
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Cookies\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Impostazioni locali\Cronologia\History.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Impostazioni locali\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\NTUSER.DAT Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\ntuser.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\NTUSER.DAT Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Cookies\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Cronologia\History.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Cronologia\History.IE5\MSHist012008020620080207\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\ApplicationHistory\hpqimzone.exe.fd734169.ini.inuse Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\administrativeInfo.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\albumImagesTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\albumImagesTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\albumTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\albumTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\CB_Server_Errors.txt Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\EXIFTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\EXIFTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\imageTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\imageTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\imageTable.fpt Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\keywordImagesTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\keywordImagesTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\keywordTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\keywordTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\managedFolderTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\pathnameTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\pathnameTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\propertiesTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\propertiesTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\ROFImagesTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\ROFImagesTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\ROFTable.cdx Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\HP\Digital Imaging\db\ROFTable.dbf Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Dati applicazioni\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temp\1058531678.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temp\2544772097.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temp\2861628167.exe Infected: Trojan.Win32.Dialer.abi skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temp\3425197697.exe Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temp\hpodvd09.log Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temp\~DF8C95.tmp Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\ntuser.dat Object is locked skipped
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\ntuser.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\System Volume Information\MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase Object is locked skipped
C:\System Volume Information\_restore{F75DCD34-1DCA-4B79-8F2A-000C582186AB}\RP118\change.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\Debug\PASSWD.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\SchedLgU.Txt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\ReportingEvents.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\Sti_Trace.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot2\edb.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CatRoot2\tmp.edb Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\AppEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SAM Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SAM.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SecEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SECURITY Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SECURITY.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\h323log.txt Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\INDEX.BTR Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\INDEX.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING.VER Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING1.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING2.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.DATA Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\OBJECTS.MAP Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\wiadebug.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\wiaservc.log Object is locked skipped
C:\WINDOWS\WindowsUpdate.log Object is locked skipped

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Messaggioda ste_95 » mer feb 06, 2008 9:13 pm

Scarica Avenger
Estrailo in una cartella a tua scelta
Esegui il file avenger.exe con la figura di una spada
Metti il flag su input script manually
Quindi scegli la lente e cliccaci
Ora incolla queste righe nella box bianca che si è aperta:

Codice: Seleziona tutto
Folders to delete:
C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temp


Adesso devi cliccare su Done in basso nella box
Seleziona il semaforino in alto a destra
Rispondi di Si alle due richieste di Avenger
Adesso il tuo computer dovrebbe riavviarsi, nel caso non succedesse, riavvialo tu manualmente
Al riavvio del computer, copia e incolla qui il contenuto del blocco note che apparirà.
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Messaggioda blackflamelux » gio feb 07, 2008 10:10 pm

Logfile of The Avenger version 1, by Swandog46
Running from registry key:
\Registry\Machine\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\oxydvcbc

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Script file located at: \??\C:\WINDOWS\hvrhwsq^.txt
Script file opened successfully.

Script file read successfully

Backups directory opened successfully at C:\Avenger

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Beginning to process script file:

Folder C:\Documents and Settings\Parrocchia\Impostazioni locali\Temp deleted successfully.

Completed script processing.

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Finished! Terminate.
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Messaggioda ste_95 » ven feb 08, 2008 6:59 am

I file infetti sono stati eliminati.
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Messaggioda furiaceca11 » dom mar 02, 2008 6:08 pm

Ciao Ste_95 ho da una settimana un problema con un caxx di trojan ( Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh ) che Kasper continua a togliere ed a eliminarlo, ma continuamente ricompare... dimmi che devo fare x favore.....

Ho fatto un file con hijackthis che ti allego...


Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 13.03.21, on 02/03/2008
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16608)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Programmi\Kaspersky Lab\Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0\avp.exe
C:\Programmi\Diskeeper Corporation\Diskeeper\DkService.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
C:\Programmi\CyberLink\Shared files\RichVideo.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RunDll32.exe
C:\Programmi\Kaspersky Lab\Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0\avp.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\GSICON.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dslagent.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Programmi\Adobe\Photoshop Album Starter Edition\3.2\Apps\apdproxy.exe
C:\Programmi\Nokia\Nokia PC Suite 6\PCSuite.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\bak\ctfmon.exe
C:\Programmi\PC Connectivity Solution\ServiceLayer.exe
C:\Programmi\PC Connectivity Solution\Transports\NclUSBSrv.exe
C:\Programmi\PC Connectivity Solution\Transports\NclRSSrv.exe
C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WLLoginProxy.exe
C:\Programmi\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\Programmi\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\Programmi\Windows Live\Messenger\usnsvc.exe
C:\Programmi\HiJackThis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.it/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=74005
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName = Collegamenti
O2 - BHO: Supporto di collegamento per Adobe PDF Reader - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Skype add-on (mastermind) - {22BF413B-C6D2-4d91-82A9-A0F997BA588C} - C:\Programmi\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\SkypeIEPlugin.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Guida per l'accesso a Windows Live - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\programmi\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\programmi\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Cmaudio] RunDll32 cmicnfg.cpl,CMICtrlWnd
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [kis] "C:\Programmi\Kaspersky Lab\Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0\avp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [GSICONEXE] GSICON.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DSLAGENTEXE] dslagent.exe USB
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [High Definition Audio Property Page Shortcut] HDAShCut.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Photo Downloader] "C:\Programmi\Adobe\Photoshop Album Starter Edition\3.2\Apps\apdproxy.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Programmi\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PC Suite Tray] "C:\Programmi\Nokia\Nokia PC Suite 6\PCSuite.exe" -onlytray
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'SERVIZIO LOCALE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\RunOnce: [nltide_3] rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSectionEx nLite.inf,C,,4,N (User 'SERVIZIO LOCALE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'SERVIZIO DI RETE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\RunOnce: [nltide_3] rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSectionEx nLite.inf,C,,4,N (User 'SERVIZIO DI RETE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'SYSTEM')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\RunOnce: [nltide_3] rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSectionEx nLite.inf,C,,4,N (User 'SYSTEM')
O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'Default user')
O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\RunOnce: [nltide_3] rundll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSectionEx nLite.inf,C,,4,N (User 'Default user')
O8 - Extra context menu item: Aggiungi a Kaspersky Anti-Banner - C:\Programmi\Kaspersky Lab\Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0\\ie_banner_deny.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&sporta in Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Programmi\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Web Anti-Virus - {1F460357-8A94-4D71-9CA3-AA4ACF32ED8E} - C:\Programmi\Kaspersky Lab\Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0\scieplugin.dll
O9 - Extra button: Skype - {77BF5300-1474-4EC7-9980-D32B190E9B07} - C:\Programmi\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\SkypeIEPlugin.dll
O9 - Extra button: Ricerche - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O16 - DPF: {0EB0E74A-2A76-4AB3-A7FB-9BD8C29F7F75} (CKAVWebScan Object) - http://www.kaspersky.com/kos/eng/partne ... nicode.cab
O16 - DPF: {CF40ACC5-E1BB-4AFF-AC72-04C2F616BCA7} (get_atlcom Class) - http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/nos/gp.cab
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/get/s ... wflash.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{3C6D86BB-DE1A-4E15-B16E-41F7DDF29620}: NameServer = 193.70.152.15 193.70.152.25
O18 - Protocol: skype4com - {FFC8B962-9B40-4DFF-9458-1830C7DD7F5D} - C:\PROGRA~1\FILECO~1\Skype\SKYPE4~1.DLL
O20 - AppInit_DLLs: C:\PROGRA~1\KASPER~1\KASPER~1.0\adialhk.dll
O23 - Service: Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0 (AVP) - Kaspersky Lab - C:\Programmi\Kaspersky Lab\Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0\avp.exe
O23 - Service: Diskeeper - Diskeeper Corporation - C:\Programmi\Diskeeper Corporation\Diskeeper\DkService.exe
O23 - Service: NBService - Unknown owner - C:\Programmi\Nero\Nero 7\Nero BackItUp\NBService.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: NMIndexingService - Nero AG - C:\Programmi\File comuni\Nero\Lib\NMIndexingService.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: PnkBstrA - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
O23 - Service: Cyberlink RichVideo Service(CRVS) (RichVideo) - Unknown owner - C:\Programmi\CyberLink\Shared files\RichVideo.exe
O23 - Service: ServiceLayer - Nokia. - C:\Programmi\PC Connectivity Solution\ServiceLayer.exe

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End of file - 7855 bytes



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Messaggioda ste_95 » dom mar 02, 2008 6:09 pm

Non c'è il log.
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Messaggioda crazy.cat » dom mar 02, 2008 6:14 pm

Vediamo un log di findaw
http://noahdfear.geekstogo.com/FindAWF.exe

furiaceca11 ha scritto:C:\WINDOWS\system32\bak\ctfmon.exe
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Messaggioda furiaceca11 » dom mar 02, 2008 7:18 pm

ecco il log...


Find AWF report by noahdfear ©2006
Version 1.40



bak folders found
~~~~~~~~~~~

Il volume nell'unit… C non ha etichetta.
Numero di serie del volume: A4EF-849D

Directory di C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\BAK

19/08/2004 14.39 15.360 ctfmon.exe
1 File 15.360 byte
2 Directory 113.562.807.808 byte disponibili
Il volume nell'unit… C non ha etichetta.
Numero di serie del volume: A4EF-849D

Directory di C:\PROGRA~1\KASPER~1\KASPER~1.0\BAK

0 File 0 byte
2 Directory 113.562.807.808 byte disponibili
Il volume nell'unit… C non ha etichetta.
Numero di serie del volume: A4EF-849D

Directory di C:\WINDOWS\PCHEALTH\HELPCTR\BINARIES\BAK

0 File 0 byte
2 Directory 113.562.806.784 byte disponibili


Duplicate files of bak directory contents
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15360 19 Aug 2004 "C:\WINDOWS\system32\bak\ctfmon.exe"


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Messaggioda ste_95 » dom mar 02, 2008 7:27 pm

Scarica Avenger
Estrailo in una cartella a tua scelta
Esegui il file avenger.exe con la figura di una spada
Ora incolla queste righe nella box bianca che si è aperta:

Codice: Seleziona tutto
Files to move:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\bak\ctfmon.exe | C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe


Togli il segno di spunta dalla voce Scan for Rootkits
Premi il pulsante Execute
Rispondi di Si alle due richieste di Avenger
Adesso il tuo computer dovrebbe riavviarsi, nel caso non succedesse, riavvialo tu manualmente
Al riavvio del computer, copia e incolla qui il contenuto del blocco note che apparirà.

Dove rileva Kaspersky il trojan?
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Messaggioda furiaceca11 » dom mar 02, 2008 7:37 pm

eliminato: un programma trojan Trojan.Win32.Agent.dxh Il file: C:\DOCUME~1\Angelo\IMPOST~1\Temp\3492629228.exe

ne ho 51 di queste righe....




non va avanger, mi da il seguente errore:


Invalid script. A valid script must begin with a command directive Abourting excution.
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Messaggioda ste_95 » dom mar 02, 2008 8:07 pm

Incolla tutto lo script, anche il comando!
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Messaggioda furiaceca11 » dom mar 02, 2008 9:16 pm

si si lo so cosi ho messo.... ma nada nn vuole andare.....


Files to move:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\bak\ctfmon.exe | C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe


c'è da dire che quando apro il programma mi spunta questo:

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Messaggioda ste_95 » lun mar 03, 2008 7:01 am

Riscarica The Avenger.
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Messaggioda furiaceca11 » lun mar 03, 2008 8:49 pm

mmm nn va proprio....
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Messaggioda ste_95 » lun mar 03, 2008 9:05 pm

Muovi manualmente il file ctfmon.exe da C:\WINDOWS\system32\bak a C:\WINDOWS\system32 [;)]
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